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TB Joshua deletes prophecy of Clinton win

A prediction by influential Nigerian TV evangelist TB Joshua that Hillary Clinton would win the US presidential election has been removed from the his Facebook account.

Mr Joshua told his congregation on Sunday that he “saw” a woman winning.

After Donald Trump convincingly won Tuesday’s vote, visitors to the preacher’s Facebook page noticed the prophecy had been removed.

The wealthy pastor is known as “the prophet” to his many followers.

He is one of Nigeria’s best-known and influential evangelists – and is popular across Africa, with many top politicians among his flock.

The US election prediction was broadcast on Mr Joshua’s TV channel Emmanuel TV, which an individual uploaded to YouTube.

A section of that “prophecy” was posted on the preacher’s Facebook page but is no longer available.

“Ten days ago I saw the president of America with a narrow win… What I frankly saw was a woman,” it said.

Image captionSome news sites in Nigeria took a screen grab of the post on Monday
Image captionOn Wednesday, the post was not showing on sites that had embedded it – like Ghana’s Citi FM

TB Joshua has been trending on Twitter across Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa as people shared memes poking fun at his prediction.

People have also taken to a Facebook entry he posted on Wednesday to complain.

Clive Mashiri from South Africa asked: “Why was the prophecy deleted? If this was uttered by the man of God, why remove it?”

Though some have defended him.

“I will always believe in your prophesies, through thick and thin,” said South African Gugu Mathonsi.

Many people believe TB Joshua has supernatural powers, which include healing and prophecy.

Ghana’s late President John Atta Mills said in a speech at TB Joshua’s thanksgiving service after winning an election in 2008 that he had consulted the preacher through his campaign.

Tanzanian President John Magufuli and Malawi’s former leader Joyce Banda have also paid homage to him in the past.

BBC

155 comments
Sidon Kasanda

Joshua.True man of God.

Mukuka Kafitu Mulenga

I for one believe the God i worship is the same God Joshua worships. If you have never listened to his sermons my dear get a taste of it before you condemn just because according to your judgement the prophecy is not fulfilled. Just wait and see.

Maureen Maureen

Haaaaaaa delete ,what does it mean?????

Elvis Mulimbika

atina muguys

Precious Ziwa Gondwe

Tb Joshua all the way

Humphrey Mwansa

Tb joshoua is a real prophet jst watcth yo mouth before you endup in hell guys

Brown Asante Chilongo

….forgive him! Prophets of nowadays are people with many shortfalls than ancient ones. Just don’t take them serious!

Paul Chalwe

Deut18:22, Jeremiah 28:9, Ezekiel33:33

Royd Mukonda

Stop lying and misleading blacks bcoz people who have read the bible no longer believe in magic.It flopped and its only that you have confused so many African brains that you are prophet and not a magician.

Josephine Namenda Silenga

i have gone thruogh all the comments mind you god is watching……think before u speak

Kenneth Fwalanga

Zambians Zambians Zambians, are u sure Trump has won the US Presidency? Get your facts straight my brethrens, don’t be misled. My understanding of American politics is that the majority Americans don’t directly vote for a president, instead they vote for house representatives who in turn vote for a president. At the moment most of those voted into the house are Trump’s senators/ representatives, whose votes still remain a secret. Now thse members of the house will now vote for a president, and its possible for some of Trumps people to vote for Clinton (though chances are very slim) on the day they will vote for a president. So its not yet over…

Clarency Hantembe

a prophet giving false prophecy is a false prophet, a prophet of doom. whatever he says is not coming from God.

Charles Kamoto

He is proffesor not prophet

Prophet-Miracle Smith-Gods Favorite

We are all human beings and we all save the same God let love lead :…………. We all make mistakes its only by the grace of God that we are were we are right now, why do we Christians like to fight each other ?????????? If you don’t make mistakes and you’re owez right tell me am waiting do you make mistakes or not ? If yes you do make mistakes then close ur mouth and stop talking about this man, if you tell me that you don’t make mistakes then you’re a liar…………. Prophet miracle

Jabulani Phiri

Guyz be careful about wat u say over this man

Emmanuel Yardley

Mst b a goat

Jay Chojay Kapsem

he’s just a fortune teller, which prophet? prophet here? I wonder y u even adore him, he’s just a human being..

Said Mustapha Chiona

the prophecy that missed the target zovu zedi

Ray Sike

kikikikikikikikikiki this con man!

Chomba Chansa-cc

Afuta chikamba… Mupola sana

Joseph Kombe

God is still saying something

Derrick Saluti

Only the word of God is absolute truth

Mathews Chituta

joshua is human bein like us nt an angel so if u claim 2 b a perfect christian open a church n lead pipo in a right path

Chisenga Mbayoni

Melvin, am still thinking about yo assertion that Trump is anointed of God. This can be true or not true or partly true, ie, God has allowed him to lead despite not being Christian, for a purpose.
It is evident that God has come in to show his power in the sense that false prophets are exposed and most of Trump’s plans are against the Vatican and political system of America. The question is can Trump really defy and work independently of the secret powers group of this world? Where is America in prophecy today?
The question i would pose for Melvin is, wasn’t president John F Kennedy a God appointed leader? He was the most loved after all. He treated his people well. He had good foreign policy but alas! He was killed! Lets analyse Trump and compare him with Kennedy. Trump is not loved by all Americans, even the former presidents. His foreign policy of sifting out all none Americans especially blacks is really frightening.
Here is what i think. If Clinton won some of us were not going to have a chance of repenting as prophecy was going to fulfil at supersonic speed. Why? She supported most of the Vatican policy on immigration and the ideology of Hitler’s unification of the world which Trump doesn’t. Trump is neither good in some way but God has appointed him for our benefits. While the Vatican will be taking time to resolve their differences with the Trump administration, we’ll use that time to refocus our minds on God,ie, repent of all our sins and be ready for the closing probation period. The sealing angel is about to finish its work. Otherwise Trump might be the last American president and one Hand over power to the beast. Remember how God used Babylon, a pagan power to punish his people. This is a wake up call. Whether Trump or Clinton all roads lead to Rome. It is only that the Clinton road was going to be speedy, Trump road a bit slower.
We are near home!

Yowela Chiwala Francois

God has badly exposed fulse prophets…..ready the bible with an open mind & seek GODs guidance…amen

Ephraim Michelo

He is a liar who has made many to drink of his cup of adulterous and fonication,

Kenneth Mafeshi

This wat happens when you put your self in worldly things

Mwila Haggai

fause prophets!

Leonard Wa Chisomo Maruwo

USA is the mouthpiece of vatican

Cornelius Thunga

False Prophets.

Enock Shazie Shachitoba Jr.

Politics has gone too far that it has started winning some people ‘s faith lol

Vincent Senga

KJV Deuteronomy 18
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Melvin Sitali

Trump is anointed by God mark my words. No person without the backing of the almighty God can go against the systems in the USA and survive. Only true prophets can see that not those who use divination like TB Josua. Theirs is fortune telling than prophesy.

Nick D-maria Shindaile

God doesnt lie or change..

Erick Mwepu

He is still my prophet, God bless you.

Erick Mwepu

Sometimes the way we judge, it lead us in to sin. People, stop cursing your life and your children life, God is watching you!!!

Jackson Kamungu

A Prophet is a prophet.Wether we like it or not

Don Phiri

He said wat he saw. not wat he will do so if the vision was wrong still thank God the devil is a liar .

Patrick Nyirenda

He is a fraudister!!!

Brian Kapanga

learn to read the bible and not always listening and watching other pipo do wat they do…christianity is not a movie nor series.

Chimwemwe Nyemba Kaponda

Children of God a prophesy is there for people to act on for it to be accomplished or not. I think Americans acted on prophesy that sounded as warning them if a woman is/was voted into power.

In the Bible, Jonah prophesied to Nineveh of the impending death to all pple after 40 days (Jonah 3:1-10 ) but when they acted on that prophecy, it did not happen. Hezekiah also acted on the prophecy from Isaiah and he was saved (2King20:1-6).

Americans have been saved from all trouble by acting on the prophesy to make a man win. I believe that the prophey was true and people acted on it. I don’t blame any man of God who prophesied. Even you can personally reverse the prophecy which is negative and God can hear you.

Good morning

Wilson Kainga

The chines manky was very accurate concerning the outcome of the USA election.

Chimuka Kapela

Why deleting it? #fake man

Bo Ing'utu Mwayanguba

Kkkkkkkk.

Baldwin Museka Chasha

Is he the only prophet who prophesied about Clinton winning?Many did,blacks and whites alike!Be prayerful and read God’s mind on this one!

Edmond Njangi

Satanists not prophets

Leonard Mtonga

I love TBJoshua and I strongly believe that he is a true Prophet sent by God

Alexander Kefi Jnr

We will know them by their fruits…. Where do a man of God involve himself in politics

    Moses Kelai Jay Sakala

    Prophecy is nat a fruit ma friend….u saying where did u see a man of God in politics right….well talk of daniel…talk of joseph…1stly according to the dictionary a politician is a person involved in the government of a country ….when we talk of joseph and daniel…they wer part of a world government….so i differ with u on that point…. 2ndly….u will know them of there fruit u say??who told u that prophecy is a fruit of tha spirit…read galatians5:19-23…prophecy aint a part of them now is it…so if we say 1 of tha fruit of tha flesh is lieing…then we knw that a person is a false right..??hence u distorting scripture makes u a false too…. Instead of pointing fingers it would be better if u constantly asked GOD to help u in tha faith…1 sin that has led many to hell is actualy pointing like they themselves were ayt with GOD……am nat saying u a sinner…buh ask GOD wats he got to say bout this…not our own minds…believe me theres more to these things than what our eyes and earz can grasp much Love 4 u fam God bless

    Jay Chojay Kapsem

    its clear, he lied no two ways

Alexander Kefi Jnr

Fake joshua

Michelo Chiimbwe

Don’t involve yourself in politics,shame….

Kennedy Musumali

Pipo don’t read the Bible sure,prophets could prophecy, and if wrongly something was to happen to them,read O.T books.

Elibebz Chilu Mukoma

I luv u tb no mata wat!!! God z with u

Gman Phet Sipepa

Satanist tb

Matthews Nyirenda

Deleting a prophecy?!! Hahahaaa

Steve Owino

Ooh my god I love his gospel,,,,that’s all

Juliet M Kafula

I love my prophet, it shall usually come to pass.

Chishiba Chichi Musonda

Failed prophecy….

Bright Mulenga

Mulabeja it is still there

Jeremiah Simwanza

pipo who talk abt others u jst luk at there prayer life zero. OK b a true prophet for u think it’s by might.lol

Chansa Benjamin Franklyn

My sister don’t ague for u will never win for it is not a battle of the flesh but of the spirit

Smartnet Gunnerz Chungu

failed

Given Kapembwa

What are you saying I just watched it

Comfort Gumbo

Been watching the clip like now

Joel M Mulanda

Eye opener

Judith Phiri

Leave the prophet alone don’t judge him OK.still number one pa world

Collins Mulenga

Go there you will find it.

Witness Tembo

He is fake,faker, fakest

Chimuka Richard

Pastor Polepole

Alex Mwiinga

In short it’s not God using him coz God can’t lie

    Salem Bonnie Godson Jr.

    May God have mercy on u,wat rights do u hav to talk abt Gods servant like tht

    Brian Kapanga

    learn to read the bible and not always listening and watching other pipo do wat they do…christianity is not a movie nor series

    Yowela Chiwala Francois

    If he was really speaking for GOD…it would have come to pass,GOD has exposed them….like it or not……its time for us people to ready the bible with an open mind & seek GODs guidance…..don’t follow man

Catherine Chansa

He is just a person he is not God he can error.

Gift Simwanjera

We never know what comes tomorrow

Chichi Summer

He’s fake!!!!!!!

Denie Wiseone Chitsulo

hula la la la

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